Comments on: Moral issues are economic issues

By: conservative dad

conservative dad — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:23:39 +0000

You made some great points. It should be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out in the fall.

By: All4Iowa

All4Iowa — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:37:29 +0000

Thank you for this post! It is loud and clear how social and fiscal issues cannot be separated. We are not a “one issue” group. They all tie together and the social issues are the foundation.

By: Used in Iowa

Used in Iowa — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:25:46 +0000

Maybe I misunderstood your earlier post. It seemed that you were not inclined to legislate moral absolutes. I would not be adverse to that, but for the most part I don’t think that it would be necessary if we had leadership that also believed the same moral absolutes. There are a few issues that would take legislation, abortion is just one of those issues. I think at this point our position is a tad bit weak politically so we need to find, promote, and elect the right leadership.

By: sdg

sdg — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:19:15 +0000

Used in Iowa, I believe in moral absolutes also. I believe that to have a truly moral society there is an obligation to keep holy one day in seven . I also think that to have a truly moral society we need to abolish idolatry in any form. Since these are moral absolutes, I feel we need to legislate them. Would you agree?

By: abregar

abregar — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:36:25 +0000

What it boils down to is that we need to elect leaders that lead with their morals. If our Republican leaders don’t lead with their morals what is the difference between them and the Democrats.

By: Iowans Rock

Iowans Rock — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0000

Isn’t the one “band-aid” they wanted to give the pregnancy pack teenagers in Mass. a condom? Yeah, that will cure it. That should be able to show them the love and attention they are craving.

Great post. How long before people realize that socons are also ficons?

By: Used in Iowa

Used in Iowa — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:58:12 +0000

I get tired of hearing the same old tired argument that we cannot legislate morality. I say to that, Bull. It is all a matter of whose morality we follow. We can follow the moral relativism that seems to dominate the Democratic Party and has begun to creep into the Republican Party. Or we can use the moral absolutes of the social conservatives of the Republican Party. To be a true and moral society we need to have moral absolutes.

By: amesvoter

amesvoter — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:46:27 +0000

Gradstudent talked of “band aid” policies… I agree what we are doing now is not working- all the money being given to funded programs. Surely some are successful but in my opinion, many of the state/government programs set up to help families are working against strengthening families.
They promote people being dependent on the help- and this goes on from one generation to the next.

An example- the continued funding for education. NO Child Left Behind… and what are the test scores showing? Iowa continues to struggle with the results of the testing, standards & benchmarks, smaller class sizes. We close up small schools thinking that bigger is better. We have a long way to go but still need to work to improve life for Iowans, so I will continue to care about social issues- even moral ones.

By: sdg

sdg — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:30:32 +0000

I believe that it is all well and good to point out injustice and immorality. But in the end, only those men and women, whose hearts have been renewed, that can be expected to live moral lives.

That renewal cannot be achieved by government. And we don’t need government to preserve the moral environment for the message of the gospel to thrive. The church spread throught the Roman Empire during the height of its decadence and immorality. And the church is spreading in hostile lands today.

So I don’t see how a moral agenda will advance our ideals.

By: nic

nic — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:43:04 +0000

There is only one way to achieve this ‘more moral society’

AS sdg said….’but the power of God unto salvation’

We Christians need to stand up and set the example and the standard, in EVERY area of our lives.

One of my favorite quotes, “We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.… Our Constitution was made only for a moral and a religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams, 11 Oct 1798