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		<title>By: iowanforabetteriowa</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5419</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to the tea party of Democrats and Republicans im upset with both of them and want them to know if they continue to do what they are doing that they better look for another job. As for TB im not thrilled at all to see TB again retreaded and pushed back out there with faded paint. When Al made the comparisions of his career as gov. compared to Culver there wasn&#039;t alot of difference between the 2. So i would want a candidate to read the party platfor and sign a agreement to push it forward. Branstad had his 16 yrs in the sun i was freshman in highschool when he got first elected and i have been out of school for 26 yrs. I want a new direction back to conservatism control spending to be less than what state brings in would be nice. Not expanding govt while revenues shrink.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the tea party of Democrats and Republicans im upset with both of them and want them to know if they continue to do what they are doing that they better look for another job. As for TB im not thrilled at all to see TB again retreaded and pushed back out there with faded paint. When Al made the comparisions of his career as gov. compared to Culver there wasn&#8217;t alot of difference between the 2. So i would want a candidate to read the party platfor and sign a agreement to push it forward. Branstad had his 16 yrs in the sun i was freshman in highschool when he got first elected and i have been out of school for 26 yrs. I want a new direction back to conservatism control spending to be less than what state brings in would be nice. Not expanding govt while revenues shrink.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Green</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5417</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to post this here Albert to keep this more readable as we&#039;re getting squeezed on the right margin.

The tea party types have never had any pretense whatsoever of being part of the Republican party. Never. They say what they mean and they mean what they say. They don&#039;t come in, use the party apparatus, then go run as an independent candidate who then spends their whole time attacking the Republican. I just wish the Christian Alliance types were so forthcoming.

And again, my platform is the Declaration of Independence, U.S Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Iowa Constitution. The Republican party platform is a long confusing and often contradictory mess of resolutions passed without any legal or constitutional scrutiny.  It is a changing document ratified by a very small minority of people  and subject to a process that can be highly manipulated. 

On top of that, each level of the party has their own platform adding to the existing tangle. How could anyone expect to hold their representative to it with any kind of serious face? The whole sacredness of the platform concept has been the push of, again, a small number of Christian alliance types to tack on their extra-constitutional legalistic requirements on Republican representatives in order to wield control over them. Nobody is being fooled here.

Until we get a more sound result out of our platform process, I am going to continue to reject that. I am going to continue to reject the Christian alliance types that use the Party to their convenience then bolt when their candidates lose fair and square to the Will of the People, which they refuse to honor, while expecting a candidate or official to honor a very flawed platform produced by system that requires a much smaller and selective majority vote of people at the conventions.

The idea of platform purity and purity in general that is being pushed by the CA crowd is a very devious and disingenuous concept being put forth on the Republican party. Alot of that &#039;purity&#039; wouldn&#039;t pass constitutional muster, and a fair amount of it is flat out religious socialism. I tend to find the CA types are more than willing to use govt to advance their agenda to get what they want. I&#039;m simply not buying it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to post this here Albert to keep this more readable as we&#8217;re getting squeezed on the right margin.</p>
<p>The tea party types have never had any pretense whatsoever of being part of the Republican party. Never. They say what they mean and they mean what they say. They don&#8217;t come in, use the party apparatus, then go run as an independent candidate who then spends their whole time attacking the Republican. I just wish the Christian Alliance types were so forthcoming.</p>
<p>And again, my platform is the Declaration of Independence, U.S Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Iowa Constitution. The Republican party platform is a long confusing and often contradictory mess of resolutions passed without any legal or constitutional scrutiny.  It is a changing document ratified by a very small minority of people  and subject to a process that can be highly manipulated. </p>
<p>On top of that, each level of the party has their own platform adding to the existing tangle. How could anyone expect to hold their representative to it with any kind of serious face? The whole sacredness of the platform concept has been the push of, again, a small number of Christian alliance types to tack on their extra-constitutional legalistic requirements on Republican representatives in order to wield control over them. Nobody is being fooled here.</p>
<p>Until we get a more sound result out of our platform process, I am going to continue to reject that. I am going to continue to reject the Christian alliance types that use the Party to their convenience then bolt when their candidates lose fair and square to the Will of the People, which they refuse to honor, while expecting a candidate or official to honor a very flawed platform produced by system that requires a much smaller and selective majority vote of people at the conventions.</p>
<p>The idea of platform purity and purity in general that is being pushed by the CA crowd is a very devious and disingenuous concept being put forth on the Republican party. Alot of that &#8216;purity&#8217; wouldn&#8217;t pass constitutional muster, and a fair amount of it is flat out religious socialism. I tend to find the CA types are more than willing to use govt to advance their agenda to get what they want. I&#8217;m simply not buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: right winged</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5416</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hate to break the news to some of you posting comments here but some of us are in fact clued in to how things need to be in the Republican Party. Purity - what a novel idea! And the sweet truth is there are a lot more of us wanting elected ones to pay attention to the party platform, to care about the social issues and not be RINO&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to break the news to some of you posting comments here but some of us are in fact clued in to how things need to be in the Republican Party. Purity &#8211; what a novel idea! And the sweet truth is there are a lot more of us wanting elected ones to pay attention to the party platform, to care about the social issues and not be RINO&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bregar</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Bregar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your constant use of the term &quot;christian coalition types&quot; is wearing a bit thin. There are a great number of solid conservatives that have abandoned the party because so called Republican elected officials refuse to govern by Republican/Conservative principles. This is what has given rise to the Tea Party movement. This is what has given rise to the massive number of registered independents. They have felt the sting of betrayal far too many times, so they abandoned the party that abandoned them. And yet the party still seems to be going the business as usual route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your constant use of the term &#8220;christian coalition types&#8221; is wearing a bit thin. There are a great number of solid conservatives that have abandoned the party because so called Republican elected officials refuse to govern by Republican/Conservative principles. This is what has given rise to the Tea Party movement. This is what has given rise to the massive number of registered independents. They have felt the sting of betrayal far too many times, so they abandoned the party that abandoned them. And yet the party still seems to be going the business as usual route.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bregar</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Bregar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have Republicans failed to learn the lesson of voting for people like Arlen Spector. They take the party&#039;s money to run as a Republican, but when it matters most they vote with the Democrats. They refuse to uphold the principles of the Republican Party. When is the constant betrayal going to get through that sometimes you have to lose to win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have Republicans failed to learn the lesson of voting for people like Arlen Spector. They take the party&#8217;s money to run as a Republican, but when it matters most they vote with the Democrats. They refuse to uphold the principles of the Republican Party. When is the constant betrayal going to get through that sometimes you have to lose to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Green</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but you have no clue as to how to take advantage of it. The christian coalition types seem more interested in looking righteous and pure than they are actually accomplishing a victory. Sad, because they don&#039;t know just how much leverage they have in the process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but you have no clue as to how to take advantage of it. The christian coalition types seem more interested in looking righteous and pure than they are actually accomplishing a victory. Sad, because they don&#8217;t know just how much leverage they have in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Green</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And conversely, if you have any hope of the candidate supporting the platform, it might be wise not to support some other candidate in the general. You can always hold their feet to the fire during their term and primary them the next time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And conversely, if you have any hope of the candidate supporting the platform, it might be wise not to support some other candidate in the general. You can always hold their feet to the fire during their term and primary them the next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bregar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Bregar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This eruption has been a long time in coming Matt. In the last four years we have had R&#039;s vote with D&#039;s on a number of things that I would consider unconstitutional such as the smoking ban. Then there was the core curriculum that did nothing more than expand government control over our schools. And then there was the Supreme Courts ruling on marriage. That ruling in and of itself became unconstitutional when the Supreme Court ordered the counties to begin allowing same sex marriage. And yet not one of our elected Republican leaders has had the courage to stand up to this run away court. Now tell me again why we should vote for every R that appears on the ballot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This eruption has been a long time in coming Matt. In the last four years we have had R&#8217;s vote with D&#8217;s on a number of things that I would consider unconstitutional such as the smoking ban. Then there was the core curriculum that did nothing more than expand government control over our schools. And then there was the Supreme Courts ruling on marriage. That ruling in and of itself became unconstitutional when the Supreme Court ordered the counties to begin allowing same sex marriage. And yet not one of our elected Republican leaders has had the courage to stand up to this run away court. Now tell me again why we should vote for every R that appears on the ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bregar</title>
		<link>http://iowadefensealliance.com/2010/01/21/the-sound-of-madness/#comment-5409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Bregar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize that the platform is not a static document. However, as you are saying that we should just shut up and be good R&#039;s and vote for whoever the nominee is, then shouldn&#039;t that nominee shut up and advance the platform that the base drafted. You see Matt that is a two way street, and until I see more consistency in supporting our Republican ideals I will pick and choose what candidates to vote for in both the primary and the general. After all in my opinion voting for an R that acts like a D is more damaging than voting for a D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that the platform is not a static document. However, as you are saying that we should just shut up and be good R&#8217;s and vote for whoever the nominee is, then shouldn&#8217;t that nominee shut up and advance the platform that the base drafted. You see Matt that is a two way street, and until I see more consistency in supporting our Republican ideals I will pick and choose what candidates to vote for in both the primary and the general. After all in my opinion voting for an R that acts like a D is more damaging than voting for a D.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Green</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That platform changes every two years. It&#039;s not a consistent document. The process can be easily manipulated by groups ramming their delegates thru the convention. There&#039;s not guarantee that any of the planks will be remotely constitutional.

Most of us see thru the christian coalition efforts to tack on their extra set of dogma points tacked on to our founding documents. What I don&#039;t understand is that they are more than willing to follow the principle of majority rule and will of the people in that process when it benefits them, but ignore it in the primary. They expect elected officials to support the platform, but they as elected Republican committee people and officers refuse to support the results of the primary election.

That&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about when I talk about integrity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That platform changes every two years. It&#8217;s not a consistent document. The process can be easily manipulated by groups ramming their delegates thru the convention. There&#8217;s not guarantee that any of the planks will be remotely constitutional.</p>
<p>Most of us see thru the christian coalition efforts to tack on their extra set of dogma points tacked on to our founding documents. What I don&#8217;t understand is that they are more than willing to follow the principle of majority rule and will of the people in that process when it benefits them, but ignore it in the primary. They expect elected officials to support the platform, but they as elected Republican committee people and officers refuse to support the results of the primary election.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about when I talk about integrity.</p>
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